Browser Pane

christophe

This is very bad news. 😫😪
Without the ability to find emails on Outlook, the functionality is useless.
However, I dream of abandoning Mailbird and staying only on Legend.
I hope you come up with a genius solution, Jay.

Jorge

Darn… Back to maillbird then.
@Jay did you see a posting about being the ms graph on offer to find emails?

Jorge

https://forum.legendapp.com/d/1302-a-new-method-of-email-pane/54

@Jay this is what i was talking about Ms graph

Jorge

Digging into the ms graph docs. Here is an example for email.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/graph/toolkit/components/get?tabs=html

I always look at my email grouped by conversation, and I’ve noticed that I cannot drag and drop into legend individual emails but just the whole conversation itself. Could it be something related to using / not using the conversaron id field?

andrew

Jay What do you think should happen when clicking on a link in the browser pane? It seems like in some cases it’s good to do the navigation within it. But sometimes you might want to open it in a browser. Should it be that holding Ctrl/Cmd opens it in browser instead of pane?

Good question. Ideally, you’d mimc the behavior of the page in a regular browser tab so you would adhere to the link “target” property so if it were “_blank” you’d open in an external browser (or eventually perhaps a new browser pane if you want to become a more self-contained browser). I realize that sometimes links are opened with Javascript or modified with Javascript, so that may be difficult to fully determine.

For instance, Gmail and Shortwave always open external links in an external tab.

And then you could have Ctrl/Cmd modified click always open in an external browser.

You could make it a pane setting though that may be confusing to some.

Right now it’s opening both within the same browser pane AND an external browser, which is not desirable.

Jorge

@Jay Today again I am experiencing freeze ups with the filtering. I have a standard filter: -"My Projects" that I have been using forever very well. Today I backspaced more than needed and accidentally erased part of that text, and when I went to retype it again, the app just froze for quite a few minutes

Jay

Jorge Is this filter bug still happening? Do you see a pattern for when it happens? I’ve been trying to reproduce it and can’t figure it out. And I don’t see how the change to the email filter could have caused it…

Jay

After a lot of research and experimenting I found a workaround for Outlook links breaking after moving an email to a different folder. It the latest beta it detects the deeplink failing to load and falls back to opening Outlook searched for
from:"{from}" subject:"{subject}"
which should show the saved email. It’s not as ideal as the deep link, but at least it gets you to the right email! It’s possible there’s some edge case where you get hundreds of emails with the same sender and subject where it wouldn’t find the right one, but that seems unlkely…

It looks like there’s just no way to get a permanent link. There are complaints all over forums that Outlook’s save to OneNote feature is also affected by the same problem - links saved to OneNote break when an email is moved to a different folder.

I had found a potential way to use the Outlook API to get an actually permanent link, but that would require authenticating Outlook with the same account as in the Browser pane, so it’s a very much more complex solution. If in the future we add support for Outlook Calendar/Contacts we could add that feature in as part of it…

But for now I think this is a pretty good solution? What do you think?

Jorge

Jay Thanks Jay I have tried it out a coiuple of times and itspicking up the email even after archiving. So Il lstart using it more and report on anything I find.

ChrisJ

Thanks for your continued efforts to find a solution for this Outlook issue Jay . I just checked and Legend was able to find emails in places other than the Inbox. 👍🏾

It’s not a ‘smooth’ UI operation as a permanent link would be, but at least the functionality works as advertised.

I appreciate your persistence and making this work.

christophe

Jay

Jay
On this filter (from:“{from}” subject:“{subject}”), would it be possible to possibly add a date parameter, and I would even say a time parameter (even if this last point does not seem possible to me).
I explain why.
I posted a job offer, all the candidates respond to me through a platform, which automatically sends me an email, with the same sender name and the same subject.
Currently, I have received around fifteen applications, of which when I click on the link, it opens the 15 email proposals.
With the additional date condition, this would at least limit emails sent on the same day.
I don’t know what other users think?
THANKS

Jorge

Jay Unfortunately yes… I erased the filter and was able to partially type the first term, but the 2nd term managed to lock it up again.

My complete filter is -“My Projects” -Risks -Issues

So I backedspaced everything, and then typed the first term -“My Projects” I made a few typos and backspaced and used the cursor to correct them, and then when I typed the second term -R it froze after the 2nd letter in that term.

Jorge

Jay Ive found a couple of issues.
When I open an attachment in an email inside the email window (say a .ppt or .xlsx file) it opens the browser version to visualize it, but also opens the actual desktop app to see the document. No biggie. But the problem is that when you try to go back from the document browser viewer to the email that triggerred it you cant. The pane just keeps refreshing to the document viewer and never goes back to the email content The only way Ive found to recover from this is to delete the pane altogether and restore the board from the saved default.

Jorge

Jay Same things happens when it is not an attachmen tin the email but a link to another web site, the pane gets stuck in the destination web site and never lets you back out to the email.

Also restoring the default view is not enough… you have to jump out of the board and back for the restored default view to become effective.

It is now functional but still to quirky to use productively. You need to be able to jump to links inside an email and back to the email easily. My suggestion is open the links just in an external browser window not in the browser pane. Its too much hassle and way too slow to be useful to open links or attachments inside the same internal browser pane, and it doesnt help functionaly anyway. The external browser functionality works better for that. I would leave the internal browser pane with just the original mail site and any link from inside that should open in an external browser , or offer a menu to ask (open in this pane or in an external browser).

ChrisJ

Jorge Jorge
@Jay , I have also noticed the behavior that Jorge has reported.

Jay

The latest update should fix the link opening issue. If they would normally open in a new tab/window they’ll open the external browser, otherwise they navigate the browser pane. And like in a normal browser you can hold Cmd on Mac or Ctrl on Windows and click to open in the browser.

How do you feel about that behavior now?

ChrisJ

Jay, it’s working much better now. 👍🏾

Jay

christophe Yes, that’s a good idea! Dates are a bit harder though, because it can only parse the displayed date in Outlook, and it will need to handle parsing many languages to work correctly for everyone. So I have it on my todo list to try that, but it’s a bit of a project to be able to confidently parse dates correctly.

Jay

The Browser Pane is now live! Thank you to everyone who helped test it! And if you haven’t tried it yet because you’re not using the beta, now you can 🙂

https://legendapp.com/blog/browser-pane/

And please keep the feedback coming on this! I’d like to add more plugins to improve your workflows with other websites/apps, so let me know if there’s any more plugins you’d like to see.

christophe

I think there is a small problem.
When updating to the stable version (I think it’s the same thing in the beta version), it’s impossible to open an email as you can see in the screenshot below.

Jay

christophe Can you check the Browser section of the settings? I think “Open browser plugin links in Browser pane” is disabled? You’ll want that enabled to open emails in the Browser Pane. With that disabled it’s falling back to trying to use the old legacy Email plugin which doesn’t work anymore. I’ll release an update to stop that fallback.

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