New sync system

Jorge

REfreshed again the beta and now a whole set of new 5 "Board"s appeared, and judging by the content only one of them is not empty and corresponds to an existing board in the stable. Mobile board does no longer appear in Beta and in its place there is a"Board". @Jay could this be reason why the mobile app in beta mode no longer starts?

However, the rightmost pane where I had created 3 mirrors to other sites in my outline in stable, appear as links in beta and not as mirrors. So stable shows them as mirrors (correctly) but beta shows them as links.

Jay

Eik Is that item contained within a mirror somewhere? If you open it in an Outline do you see it twice in the document? I made some changes to how item ids are generated to make them more unique, to fix some collapsing issues, which can show items more often than it used to. If you can tell me more about where that item is in the document it would help me make it more correct 🙂.

What do you mean that the pane is not updating well? Are updates delayed while making changes elsewhere?

Jay

Jorge That’s a good clue about the default state - I’ll look into that. I’m seeing the collapse issues in the overview too and I’m working on that now - it’s caused by the big changes I made to pane object ids yesterday (which fixed a lot of other general issues). And I think the difference in the number of items is caused by the moved items problem I mentioned before - I haven’t gotten to that one yet. I’ll let you know when that should be solved. Should be within a few days hopefully.

I’m thinking that some of the sync problems you’re seeing between stable and beta may just be sync problems in stable itself, nothing to do with beta. Can you try opening stable in an incognito window next to your normal stable and see if it syncs correctly from stable <-> stable? Your documents are so big that clicking “collapse all” created a collapsed state so large that it crashed the sync system completely so that nothing would ever save again (I had never seen that and didn’t know it was even possible until I tested on a copy of your largest document). Beta includes tons of changes to fix that so it won’t be a problem anymore. But it could be that cloning a massive board in stable creates the board and then tries to save the too-large collapsed state and fails, and never syncs again. But if stable <-> stable syncs fine, that would be very good to know because that would mean it’s definitely a beta problem…

I can’t figure out the problem with boards being renamed to “Board”. I do see that when creating boards in beta that they show as “Board” in stable. That’s to be expected - stable doesn’t understand the new board properties. But I haven’t been able to reproduce the other direction, that boards created in stable appear as “Board” in beta. I’ll keep looking.

And a missing Mobile board may very well be the problem with the mobile app. I’ll take a look at that 🙂.

Eik

Jay No it is not in a mirror. And it’s not twice in the document, I’m sure. I’m always adding items at the top of every a document, like a journal. A new day is a new item at the top. I’ve sometimes noticed that when I close the legend app and reopen it, the last added item is not at the top of the document, but it moved to the bottom! Maybe this is another hint for you?

Eik

Jay I have 2 panes side-by-side

left, not displaying local events + google calendar

right, displaying local events + google calendar

When a mark a checkbox item on the left as completed, the item appears as checked on the right, which is good. I then use ‘remove from google calendar’ of the item on the right side. The item on the left is then gone, which is good. But after a while sometimes the item re appears on the left, but the checkbox is now gone (sometimes) and legend thinks it is on my google calendar, which is not! The item is also visible on the calendar pane, but in reality the item is not on my google calendar.

Jerud

Jay Now that you’ve uninstalled and cleared out the cache, you may find your most-important document is working fine now, and you don’t need the imported backup? If it’s in the Trash you can restore it and it should be as it was?

I think I understand why you say that but I didn’t find a “good” copy of that doc in the trash, though I’ll admit it’s a messy place and my frustration threshold was pretty low after previous efforts so it wasn’t a strong effort on my part : ) I didn’t take a careful enough approach to this round of testing so have had to scramble a little to recover.

I went back to my shop computer, where I had left Legend in a logged-out state. Instead of uninstall/reinstalling, I blew away the AppData/Roaming/Legend folder before launching Legend. Upon login I got a good clean sync. Nothing extra, no toast, no surprises. This seems to support what you were saying about local documents.

I’m gonna hang out in stable for little while and recover a little before trying to switch again, and I’ll do it smarter next time!

Jay

I just released an update which will stop caching locally to the same folder as stable, and a new app version which enables a new cache folder. So that should resolve all of the weird glitches switching between stable/beta in the desktop app Jerud. https://forum.legendapp.com/d/137-beta-updates/253

I will get on the issue with moved items next, then hopefully things should be generally stable and ready for everyone to migrate, and I’ll move onto the smaller issues 🙂.

Eik

Another strange issue in beta. The doucments pane is not in sync with the actual outline pane. When I add a new item ‘BEGIN’ in the outline it is not represented in the documents pane.

When I close legend and open legend again my just added item ‘BEGIN’ in the top of the outline pane is gone! It is now placed at the bottom as last item!

Jerud

OK I installed 2.1.0.
I had been getting the ‘duplicate documents’ errors in stable every time I launched the app, even though I wasn’t switching to Beta. That is now gone.

I like the new doc loading screen in beta, now that it’s working. Much better feedback!
My documents appear intact (so far) in beta and stable.
In beta my boards all exist but Panes are almost completely wiped out. A few 1-pane boards were OK but any multipane boards got filled up with an arbitrary-seeming number of identical, standard panes all pointed to the same (wrong) document.
Thankfully, board definitions in stable are unaffected.

So, a big improvement but not quite there.

BTW I noticed this before upgrading to 2.1.0 and it persists in 2.1: The available documents in the Export tool differ from the list shown in the Overview drawer (the last 3 docs in the export pane are superfluous):

Jay

Jerud That’s very strange about the panes being wiped out. I think it may be bugged boards left over from a previous version of the beta. I’ve stressed tested board sync in every way I can think of and can’t find any problems. If it keeps happening any hints on patterns you’re seeing would be very helpful!

And the exporting issue is expected - I prioritized general usage and haven’t gotten to migrating export/import to the new system yet. As things are stabilized I’ll get to those before doing a stable release.

Jay

Jorge I just released an update that should fix the missing “moved” items in your documents. Please let me know how that goes - did the missing items come back? Did it bring back more than you expected it to?

The issue with mirrors not loading correctly should also be fixed in the latest beta.

Jorge

Jay
Sorry I erroneously replied in the BEta updates thread…. I already deleted them and re posted here..

This is how these entries look in stable

And this is how they look in beta (before signing out and back in)

Wiping the private window and relogging in (I have to mention that every time I log in it gets stuck and it requires to hit refresh until it loads properly and starts asking for my passwords), I see the same results in the beta version. Those 2 seemingly encrypted (I think they are internal links) are showing up instead of showing an entry that has another mirror (and therefore should show the tally as 2).

Jorge

The mobile board is now showing up properly named in Beta… I restored the panes to what they should be but the mobile app still opens up stuck in “Loading Documents”
Now that is the native mobile app, the browser based app opens fine in the mobile, but it still has some problems that we should addresss in a separate thread.

Jorge

Jay
I am still seeing differences in the counters
I am running stable in the windows desktop app and beta in the browser incognito window
Personal document in stable

Personal document in Beta

That’s still more than a thousand items missing from beta document, now I don’t know how in the stable my pane has more items than the document so it might be an error in the tally counters, but still thousands of items in difference in the filters as well.

I’ll try to find specific examples.

Jorge

Jay
So here is a good example:
Stable has a big entry that is really a mirror to a different document:

Beta doesn’t drill into the the mirror as it interprets it as a link

That first entry “My personal time distribution areas” contains 15 entries
The 2nd entry (which is a mirror to another document) contains 4105 entries

In my job document the differences on both inboxes are much more closer document still shows 72494 items in stable vs 71380 in beta, but in the pane 5033 vs 5028 so much better. Is that an indication of how much more messed up my personal life is than my professional life? 😥

Eik

Eik @Jay Can you reproduce this? The behaviour is very consistent in beta on my document. When I close Legend an open it again, just added nodes are moved to the bottom of my outline, but they should be at the top where I added them.

Eik

Jay Are these documentID and itemID ’technical id’s’, like a guid or something, so not related to the content at all? Just wondering, how this works. Can we see those documentID and itemID somewhere?

Eik

Eik @Jay I’ve done some research on this using the export functionality to JSON in Legend.

When I add 3 nodes near the top of my document, like this:
node 1
|
—- subnode 1
|
——– subsubnode 1

I then export this as JSON. Mind the ‘i’ node = “-2,-3,-2,-5”. This is the 3rd item of the parent = -NCJegOYtwiFtueY_UFQ

	{
		"id": "-NR4qQAaK57Ud3C7M_0h",
		"i": "-2,-3,-2,-5",
		"t": "- 2023/03/25",
		"c": 1679430363916,
		"p": "-NCJegOYtwiFtueY_UFQ"
	},
	{
		"id": "-NR4qSInZTcQJuTZW6M8",
		"i": "0",
		"t": "[ #review",
		"c": 1679430372633,
		"p": "-NR4qQAaK57Ud3C7M_0h"
	},
	{
		"id": "-NR4qXjKE13LEpzMclbg",
		"i": "0",
		"t": "- ",
		"c": 1679430394874,
		"p": "-NR4qSInZTcQJuTZW6M8"
	},

Now when I close legend and reopen it, I do an export to JSON. It looks like this. The ‘i’ node is now “300”! As a result it is the last in the outline of the parent = -NCJegOYtwiFtueY_UFQ

	{
		"id": "-NR4qQAaK57Ud3C7M_0h",
		"i": "300",
		"t": "- 2023/03/25",
		"c": 1679430363916,
		"q": false,
		"p": "-NCJegOYtwiFtueY_UFQ"
	},
	{
		"id": "-NR4qSInZTcQJuTZW6M8",
		"i": "0",
		"t": "[ #review ﻾ ",
		"c": 1679430372633,
		"q": false,
		"p": "-NR4qQAaK57Ud3C7M_0h"
	},
	{
		"id": "-NR4qXjKE13LEpzMclbg",
		"i": "0",
		"t": "- ",
		"c": 1679430394874,
		"q": false,
		"p": "-NR4qSInZTcQJuTZW6M8"
	},

Is the ‘i’ node meant to be the ordinal position of the item within it’s parent? If so, what does it mean when the i’node is “-2,-3,-2,-5”?

Jorge

I started reconstructing some of my panes in Beta in incognito. The performance is not looking good. In the Mobile board I have 4 panes, 2 in agenda mode (pointing to different documents) and 2 in outline (pointing to the same documents as the agenda panes).
Just right clicking on an item in the agenda mode to mark it as complete takes 3-4 seconds between the time you click on the complete in the context menu and the time the system makes the menu disappear and the item is marked complete. Then it takes another number of seconds until the system becomes responsive again and you can place the cursor in any other item.

However, starring and unstarring performs normallly.

BTW I completely got tired on the mobile getting back workign so I completely uninstalled it and reinstalled it. Now it recognized the newly restored Mobile board and was able to get it to work. However, the performance is also not good, it is too slow even switching from panes.

Jorge

Also I was hoping that this had solved the offline problem, but I encountered again. It suddenly stops responding… Offline indicator comes on… and then the browser just rejects the app as This page is having a problem and stating that the system is out of memory.
Checked and my task manager shows that I am using only 15 out of 31 GB of memory.

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