Browser Pane

Eik

please add Microsoft DevOps as well: https://aex.dev.azure.com/

andrew

One little detail is whether the “is:email” filter should now also include links to more than just Gmail and Outlook. eg, it would be nice if it included Shortwave and any other email plugins you create.

Jorge

Agree on adding Azure DevOps and JIRA as ticket managers for development projects would be great.

@Jay Additionally, my personal email in OUtlook and Gmail works well, but my OFfice 365 from work doesnt let me drag emails from the email pane to my Outline panes.

Jay

Jorge Could you share (or send in DM) a screenshot of your Office 365 account running in Legend? It works for my account but it may be that you (and others) have different settings that are making the injected draggability not work.

Jay

Thanks for all the feedback @andrew! One thing I wonder from your comments and my own usage is whether the browser pane being a Pane is actually the best way to interact with it. Do you think it would be more useful as a persistent sidebar that could be easily opened from any board? That would effectively act the same as the tiling you’re doing.

One of the technical issues with having it as a pane is that all active panes are disposed when switching boards and recreated when switching back. So keeping the webview inside the board active would require some complex trickery to keep it alive. But if it’s a separate sidebar or window it wouldn’t have the same constraints so maintaining browser state would be easier. Obviously we should do what’s right for the best UX but I just don’t want to make it harder for a bad reason 😅

Jorge

Jay Personally I think having the email as a persistent bar is more useful. throughout the day I change numerous times between different boards (roughly every hour or half hour) and it would be far more useful to keep the email sidebar in thestate where I have been reading email to provide continuity and not requiring the window to refresh.

That persistent window should have the possibility to be minimized to take it out of view while concentrating on something, but keep its state so that when it is recalled it is in the smae state you left it when minimized.

andrew

Jay Personally, I prefer email as a regular pane rather than a sidebar. I don’t want it always visible in any context, I just don’t want it to have to refresh every time I switch back to it. Keeping that board in a dedicated second window is actually working fine for me now. It’s probably easiest to rely on the OS window functionality rather than trying to recreate that within a Legend.

That said, I have long felt that having the ability to pin any pane as a sidebar accessible from any board would be a useful feature, but I would use it for either a calendar pane, agenda pane or outline pane, particularly if I start using more browser pane plugins. Right now I use window tiling at the OS level to accomplish this.

andrew

Jay Re opening links from Shortwave, as of now, all links are opening in the original browser pane, not in a popup.

wecanseeformiles

Jay I’d be in favour with the browser pane being a persistent sidebar, I think. If it wa a persistent sidebar in each Board, I’d use it to switch between Shortwave, gmail and ai.GPT. But if I was switching between these would I be maintaining browser state in each of them?

Jorge

Jay Sure Ill send it right away

Jorge

Jay Just sent you an email with the screen shot.
Oddly enough there is a pattern of steps when it works and one where it doesnt.
If I switch into my Email board (and after having the panes including the email pane render completely) I try to move items from email into my outline, it doesnt work. It reacts as if nothing had been moved into the outline.

But if I switch to another window and then back to legend, then the move of email items into the outline starts working properly.

Jorge

Jay Also I think it has to do with the reading pane preview.
When no reading pane preview is shown, then even after just rendering the pane, the drag and drop into outline works. But if I have expanded a conversation thread, selected a single email item (and the reading preview is showing the content of the message) then it doesnt work.

Or is it because it doesnt let me drag and drop individual messages and it only lets me drag and drop the overall thread header?

Jorge

When you open a URl link within the browser window inside Legend, the browser window opens well, but when you click on the link Open in browser at the top half, the browser window just closes without transferring the content to an actual MS Edge window.

When you have a standard MS Edge window open with just any tab (except Workona) and you click on a URL link in Legend, the browser window pops open inside Legend but completely empty. HOwever, here when you click on the top right Open in browser then the page is correctly opened in MS Edge.

christophe

Jay, I would also like to send a video capture, in DM. I have an Office 365 pro account in France.
For my part, drag and drop works, but it’s impossible to open the email. I would like to believe that there is a technical limit for opening emails, but then why can I open them when I consult them in outlook webmail, in Legend.

Jorge

christophe You are right, when I try to open an email that linked from MS 365 this is what I get>>

And at that point the browser pane gets stuck in that error message and doesnt let you back out.

Jay

Jorge What’s the error message? Looks like maybe a screenshot failed to upload in your message?

Jorge

Jay
Here is the error message:

UTC Date: 2024-03-25T20:56:57.856Z
Client Id: EDCB28BCB8C64A63A917EFAB629E4620
Session Id: 973b6a6f-82f0-4f6c-a846-264820c6b96a
Client Version: 20240315003.09
BootResult: fail
Back Filled Errors: None
err: TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'options')
esrc: Script
et: ClientError
estack: TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'options')
    at Xm (https://res.cdn.office.net/owamail/hashed-v1/scripts/owa.AppBoot.m.4af45e8f.js:1:92171)
    at https://res.cdn.office.net/owamail/hashed-v1/scripts/owa.mailindex.bfaf3d44.js:2:6934
    at async Promise.all (index 3)
    at async Xe (https://res.cdn.office.net/owamail/hashed-v1/scripts/owa.mailindex.bfaf3d44.js:2:10654)

Jorge

andrew I do something like that, but I never realized that I could drag an item from one Legend window to a different Legend window. That could solve the problem.

My thought on the persistent window is ONLY if it is collapsible so that I can take it out of the way and bring back as needed, and also only as long as it is truly persistent and doesnt need reloading.

My only concern with multiple instances of Legend (which I already use for keeping a window open in a different context in each of my desktops, I keep around 4 desktops) is that each desktop occupies 3 GB of memory so I am not keen on having too many of those open at any given time. I already keep 3 windows open in each one of my desktops.

Jay

Jorge This is fascinating to me. How many instances are you running in total? What does having 3 windows open in each desktop look like? What’s the goal of having all these windows? Are they tiled or is it to make switching boards faster?

Jorge

Jay So I keep one desktop of each of my high visiblity projects because I am constantly switching between them from meeting to meeting, so when I switch context toa project I simply switch desktop. IN each desktop I have an instance of Legend opened up in board tuned specifically for that project, along with other windows with related documents, spreadsheets, powerpoints, trackers etc… that my team is working on at the moment.

Additional I keep a desktop for general communication and organization where I have emai, teams, IM and another instance of Legend open where I live most of the day switching between boards when I am not in a working session of any of the major projects.

So usually I keep 3 instances of Legend open. When I dont have meetings on a given project on a given day I ususally do not open that projects instance.

I have to say I work on 4 monitors…. so my laptop…2 big monitors in vertical mode and 1 big one in horizontal mode. I know its a bit crazy. When I am working only in my laptop I feel that I am handtied….

Jorge

@Jay any progress with this issue? Being able to open the email message by clicking on the link in the outline is critical for this functionality to be useful, otherwise it’s pointless.

Once this works I might be able to not need maillbird

Jay

Jorge I removed the browser popup in the latest version since it’s controversial and causes some bugs like this. I don’t want to distract from the Browser pane, so I’m going to postpone that to maybe doing later and focus on the Browser pane (and other misc fixes) for now.

Jorge This Outlook bug should be fixed in the latest beta. I am still seeing it not making emails draggable sometimes - I’ll fix that tomorrow. Are you see any other issues?

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