Sorry to report that the agenda pane continues failing when typing an expression inthe filter.
I have 4 panes all outlines and filtered by default only for incomplete items. To test I change any of the panes to agenda mode.
When I type the search term “finish” which should encounter a few dozen items the same behavior continues, the agenda pane become sblank only showing “Today” with 0 items.

Collapsing the groups on the agenda continues to fail in the same way rendering a blank pane.
Other view types, like grouped by tag seem to be working ok with collapsing and filtering responding correctly. However filtering seems to be running slow compared to previous versions. When you click on the filter box and start typing your search term, the application becomes unresponsive (I am testing still in incognito mode in the browser), none of the characters you type appear in the search term until about 40 seconds later when the search term appears at the same time that the filtered items appear in the pane.

So in the Beta I have a couple of board groups reappeared in the last few releases. They were 2 of my old groups of boards that I had originally before losing them all. One is empty and the other contained only one board. When I opened it (it appeared normal) and scrolled to the rightmost pane (it had about 5 panes), the application triggerred an error report for which I provided an explanation, but the last pane to the right appeared empty with the stats bar all the way to top.
This is how it looks. IN theory it should be showing 4563 items but it is empty.

AFter reporting the error, I proceeded to delete the board altogether (as I ahd already recreated that one in the stable version and it showed in teh Beta as well). And when I did that, a phantom Board group and a phantom Board appeared both in Beta and in stable (both empty).

If I delete that empty “Board” in Beta anotherr phantom “Board” appears in Stable and the “Board” in Beta disappears for a while but then it comes back. So now I have two empty “Board ” in stable and one empty “Board” in Beta. It does let me delete them from stable, though because of what Jay explained earlier deleting them from stable does not delete them from Beta.
Once I have deleted them from stable I tried to delete it from Beta, but the damn thing comes back.

So again the syncing issue between Beta and Stable just bit me. One of those empty “Boards” I mentioned before ended up being one of the new boards I had recreated in stable, but for some reason messing with boards in Beta just caused it to be renamed to “Board” and again I deleted it by thinking it was a phantom board … Arggghgh
Now that I needed it and went looking for it, it wasn’t there!!!!!

I patiently recreated it in stable and vaprized my private window with beta. I logged back into Beta and the new board I recreated in stable is NOT showing up in Beta. Whatsmore… the board I created to hold all my documents in separate panes so that I could easily got through each signing in and entering password (because the Mobile had been erased) is no longer in Beta.

I think I am done testing Beta for now… can’t afford to spend more time on this for now. This is already feeling more like an Alpha release than a Beta.

  • Jay replied to this.

    Understood Jorge. I’ve got enough reports in the error tracker to track down and fix these board sync bugs. I haven’t been able to reproduce any of the issues you’ve described by testing it myself, even with 6 instances at the same time across web/mobile and stable/beta… But there’s tons of data in the error reporter about what specifically caused your problems, so I’ll run through that and fix everything up. And I’ll let you know when board sync should be more stable.

    Tried switching to beta again last night and got a blank screen. No “loading” dots, just emptyness for a long time.
    I didn’t try anything further. Too much work to do right now, to risk losses as I see above.

    I just released an update to beta which I think should fix all of the major issues reported here. If you want to test without worry of data loss you could try making a new test account for testing beta features? And you could even export your docs and import them into the test account.

    I think the majority of the issues faced were that board sync was sometimes failing on Agenda panes due to a change in collapsing. That was fixed in the previous update, but the pending change was still cached locally so it was continuing to attempt the failing sync. It should now gracefully repair the pending change and work correctly.

    I am quite confident in this latest version, but I will keep checking the error reporter and testing to try to break it.

      Don’t know if this is related to the new sync system, but this worked previously. I try to select the first line, but the selection is just below the line. I have this pane:

      I change to another view, group by agenda today

      Then try to select the first line.

      • Eik replied to this.

        Well I can switch to beta now with the update done.

        I see what I’m pretty sure is an old version of my boardset. That is, it’s not a few random boards from my current set that are corrupted or lost; rather I have time-traveled to circa Summer 2022. Some Boards are empty and I think they are the ones I no longer have today. Maybe…it’s hard to be sure about things like this.

        • Jay replied to this.

          Jerud Is that in the app or an incognito window? If it’s the app can you try signing out and back in?

            @Jay I tried firing up the beta in a private window in edge. It feels it loads faster and I was able to see the list of documents, but because all my big documents are encrypted and the nonecrypted ones are tiny then it just blazes through that and opens up.

            However, when I tried to open every single encrypted document, it lets met select the document I want to open, input the password and then….. nothing.. it’s just as if it ignored the password I entered and takes me back to the document. I can’t open any of my encrypted documents.


            I refreshed the whole window and now the documnts I had tried to open before appear open. Which is fine, it is no longer a blocker but the UI shouldn’t be behaving like that. something is not refreshing properly after the document is open. It never showed any progress of opening the document after I input the password, it never showed the document now open in the overview and only until I refreshed the window did the documents appeared open in the overview.

            The one good thing I see is that now the app doesn’t become unresponsive when opening encrypted documents. Before it would just freeze for a minute or two when opening my big encrypted documents. Now it continues letting me use the app, but it never shows when the document was actually opened.

            Desired behavior would be to open the document in the background but show somehwere and indicator that it is working in opening the doc (say in the status bar)., and when it finishes pop up a reminder that the doc is now open.

            Jay With respect to opening in a new account, I have been seriously considering that that is the only way of getting rid of all the old deleted stuff I have always wanted to just blast away from my documents. Given what you have mentioned have been the problems of corruption or old data that now confuses the system, I am thinking that might be the wayto go, but I would need to change the email under my current account and then open the new account with my current email so that my account conditions persevere in this new account, and later on when I am satisfied with the migration, obliterate my current account.

              For the mobile update I tried to trigger the update, but even if I press [Check for Updates] it still says I am in the latest version, and my mobile beta is still running on 6.0.2 ….82134 June 11

              Jorge Been having the exact same thought. Was already on the brink due to the clutter of old deleted documents, and old data sure seems to like popping up. Can’t help but think it would be clearer sailing if there simply wasn’t any old data in the first place.

              Jay Windows Desktop app.

              I just tried with my “good” laptop for the first time since the last update.
              Switch to Beta: blank screen, no Loading
              Switch to Stable, logout
              Login, switch again to Beta
              I Got a new loading screen, with some kind of preview of my document list (order scrambled), along with a very pale progress bar (my Theme dramatically downplays some UI elements). Each document had it’s own loading dots next to it, which were moving but clipped on the right edge. Those dots never changed to indicated progress as each doc was loaded, but the progress bar filled and I got to my Boards.

              My Boards, Panes, and documents appear to all be intact,
              EXCEPT the one document I have been working in the most recently, which is missing over half of its top-level branches. Hard to tell if children are missing from the remaining branches, at a glance, Not sure if there’s a pattern but it is probably the same ones that went missing last time I tried switching to beta.

              I still can’t manually reorder the documents.

              I found another set of missing items in beta. They are present in the stable version.
              So still can’t rely on the integrity of the visualization that the beta provides.
              And while I was validating this, the board I was working just blew up. All panes deleted and back to the blank board asking you to create a new pane.

              the board in stable is of course still there without a problem.

              I found the board sync problem, working on it now. I was able to reproduce it by adding a pane with a calendar pane open, and it cleared all of the panes in the board (but only the beta ones). I’ll try to get a fix out soon.

              I think the problem with missing items is from an old bug where moving items between documents marked them as moved but didn’t correctly move them to the new document. The old sync system was very forgiving and only used that as a hint, but I forgot about that and make the new system ignore all moved items. I investigated @Jorge’s document and found that to be the problem. So the items should still be there in the database, it’s just deciding not to show them. I’m still trying to figure out how best to fix it, but I will try to solve it asap.

              As I was making the new sync system I found that document ordering was not really working right previously, and a lot of documents just didn’t have any order, so they might reorder randomly after signing out and back in. So I just removed the concept of ordering completely and made them alphabetical just to get it working faster. Do you think manual ordering is an important feature? If so I can add it back in, but more correctly.

              I think trying to migrate to a new account would cause more trouble than it’s worth. I’m trying to fix all of the old problems as part of this new sync system, so old data should not cause any issues. And once this is all stabilized I’ll add features to fully delete documents and to clear out deleted items. I think that should be a better solution than starting over.

              For the mobile update issue, are you using the beta version (under About Legend in settings)? That version number is the latest stable mobile version. If so, is that iOS or Android? I’ve tested on my Android and it’s updating correctly and I’m not sure what the issue would be…

                I just released an update with the board sync problem fixed @Jorge.

                FYI the next things I’m working on (unless something more important comes up):

                • Items that should show up more than once in an agenda day block are only showing once, due to changes in how unique ids are generated to try to fix the collapsed state being too big and failing to sync. I found a better way to do that.
                • Handle items incorrectly marked as “moved” better so your missing items should reappear
                • Change it to remove deleted items from the local cache, and maybe store deleted items in a separate cache, to improve load time when you have a lot of deleted items. The beta system is not as aggressive as the old sync in ignoring deleted items so load time may be slower now than it could be if you have a lot of deleted items.

                Jay Do you think manual ordering is an important feature? If so I can add it back in, but more correctly.

                Yes. I have two primary documents and then everything else is ‘supporting’ documents. I want the primaries to stay at the top of the list at all times and would prefer not to use hacks like naming them with a “!”.

                Clearly this is lower priority than getting the other problems fixed but it would be nice to get it back.

                Well, things got a little hairy for a few minutes. I’ll admit that I wasn’t exactly making it easy on the app, but that’s our job, right? 😉

                I basically have 3 instances of Legend on windows desktop. One runs on the “shop” computer, and my “good” computer has Work and Personal users, each running Legend. All logged in to the same account. I’ve been doing this for most of the last year without trouble.

                Over the last week I have tested switching to beta – and back – in all three places. I always ended up back in stable. But I recently realized all three instances were showing different document contents, with the point of divergence being sometime in the last week.

                I exported my docs and signed out of all three instances & mobile app. I don’t use web. Rebooted both computers. Logged back in to my “good” computer (with stable) and found a nice little mess:

                • I have a “My First Document”
                • Most of my documents have been duplicated.
                • One of them – of course, the most important – is not duplicated; it exists but is empty.
                • My other most-important document is duplicated but one instance is showing up strangely in the Overview drawer: it is “indented” (twice) and plain font, as if it’s a parent beneath the document above it…but the doc above it is the empty one. There’s no “>” to expand/collapse it. When I click this glitchy one, the Pane zooms itself to a deep branch of the document
                • I can drag to reorder docs but each time I do, one of my ‘testing’ documents spawns another copy, even if it’s nowhere nearby.
                • My Boards remained intact, except for some changes to the Mobile Board that I did just yesterday. This makes sense because I rarely change my Boards.

                Upon seeing this, I didn’t do anything else in the app. I logged out and right back in again. Now all the dupes are gone, I still have “my first document”, Boards are OK, the glitching doc is gone, and the document that had been emptied out is now just completely gone. One other document is now also gone, that was not previously missing.

                I have the backups and can fix all this up. What’s distressing is that ‘stable’ was not a safe haven. The very act of trying beta seems to have wrecked what was in stable.

                UPDATE: I imported back the one document I lost from backup. When I return to the Boards which should be pointed to that document, I see that they have retained their Panes and Filters, but are pointing to something weird. It is NOT the copy of the document I just re-imported, which has the same name. They all seem to be pointing to a ghost version of that document, that only has one top-level branch. In the overview drawer, no doc is highlighted or expanded, as it would be when a Pane is zoomed. When I zoom out in any of those Panes, I am just seeing this one-branch document, which still doesn’t register in the Overview drawer.

                Oh yeah, and a BUNCH of mirrors are now either (deleted item) or a gibberish item ID inside parentheses. I really wish we had more tools for repairing deleted items, since they seem to happen pretty regularly. I wish Legend could somehow ‘remember’ what the item-text used to be, which would at least give me a way to repair the break. (deleted item) is basically just saying, “Hey, I lost your data, good luck”. And yes, losing an instance of a mirror, even if there is still an intact instance somewhere else, does count as data loss to me. If a mirror goes missing or broken that means some connection or sequence that was important enough to document is now gone. What really sucks here is that I can’t even recover these mirrors by importing a backup. I guess the document IDs are changed or something, making the references invalid? We really need mirrors to be more durable. I don’t want to stop using them because they are so damned useful and powerful…but this fragility is worrying.

                I can leave some of these in place for a little while but have to patch up a few of them manually to get some work done.

                I’m getting sync glitches entirely in stable. After the full logout above, I did the repairs on my Work document from the work user. I closed Legend before switching to my personal user to continue the cleanup in my Personal document. When I launched Legend on the personal side, I got a screenful of the “duplicate document” toasts. I logged out and back in, and now I have a bunch of the old docs back that I had just cleared out, including “my first document”. On top of that, when I check in the work document, I see all the old (deleted item) that I just finished removing and replacing, have all come back! It looks like the new stuff I created remains intact but the old broken ones were re-created and merged in.

                So, I logged out at my personal instance and uninstalled Legend. Went back to the work user, forced a backup and sync, then closed the app. Back to personal, reinstalled Legend and logged back in. Now it seems okay, although I’m afraid of what I’ll find when I try at the shop computer tomorrow AM.

                At no point since the full logout have I attempted to switch to beta. I don’t understand what’s going on here.

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